by not reciprocating and voting out J.T.
’s target of Sandra, gunning for Malcolm instead.
seemed to be a dead man walking after that, yet found an idol the very next day.

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Here are a few highlights from our chat.
I wasn’t shy.
I don’t go to get second place or even 10th place.
And sometimes it works out and sometimes it don’t."
I really thought it was Michaela going home.
There is no doubt about it.
And honestly, to me, it was a no-brainer.
You have to make decisions based on what would you do in that circumstance.
I was giving Sandra more credit than she probably deserved.
She was strictly after a payback vote, which is never a good thing in my opinion.
“I left it at camp.
I actually had a bad feeling going into the vote at Tribal.
It just didn’t feel good to me.
At that point, it was too late.
I had actually buried the idol on top of a place called Lookout Mountain back there at camp.
I didn’t want to be caught with it like I was atHeroes vs. Villains.
I hurt myself not taking it with me, no doubt.
And I will regret it for sure.
I already do.”
I’d like to say, yeah, I would have.
I thought that was more leverage than I needed to secure myself to the merge.
My way of thinking was, the only way these guys have a chance was with me.
Cause everyone else in the game were my former alliances except Troyzan and Hali.
So I felt like I was in a good position.
But you’re never safe inSurvivor."
“So this was an opportunity for me.
My only mistake was trusting Culpepper holding up his end of the deal.
It didn’t work out that way.
Because he didn’t have anything to lose here, only to gain.
But it didn’t work out.”
So hat’s off to Brad for making a decent move.
But as far as my gameplay goes, I did what I had to do.
This was a chance at that Tribal to get control of this new tribe.
I was outnumbered 5-1.
I had worked over Malcolm and Aubry.
That’s the biggest thing.
I didn’t want to go and be someone’s pawn.
I wanted to have control of my own destiny."
I was helping him out regardless.
All he had to do was follow up on his end of the deal.
So I had definitely had too much stock in Brad Culpepper.
No doubt about it.
I would have been loyal all the way to the end.
And I thought we could stick together and be solid."
I had no idea.
I was wondering why Sandra kept instigating the sugar.
She really kept bringing up the sugar.
It was really not as big a deal as it seems.
Sandra was just wanting to instigate as much as she could and pit me against Michaela.
As I watched the episode, that unfolded to me.
Obviously, it annoyed me, but what can you do?
At every challenge, she was always wanting to be wherever no one else wanted her to be.
She felt like she had something to prove.
It just didn’t sit very well with me."
I had complete control of the Nuku tribe.
I ran through my head as we were swapping, what’s the worst that could happen?
Well, sure enough, the worse that could happen happened and I was in a rough spot."
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