There was a TV series, and I had all of the dolls.

That John Chambers makeup was fascinating to me.

I wanted to be an ape so badly.

WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES

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When I came intoDawn, there was such an accelerated schedule, Reeves says.

This time, we actually took the time to watch everyApesmovie.

There are no human coleads as in previous installments, which was always Reeves goal.

In a way,Dawnwas kind of a postapocalyptic-apes-world origin story, he says.

I had to tell that first.

Once the business of that was done, then we could align ourselves completely with Caesar.

That shift brought with it some added difficulty.

Only 15 ofWars 1,400 shots had no special effects.

On our movie, the actors dont exist in that ape form until very late.

Suddenly youre re-editing the movie because its like our dailies finally arrived.

While its early days for that project, Reeves already sees some overlap betweenWarand his next film.

Batman and Caesar grapple with internal struggles in an imperfect world, he says.

Matt Reeves may turn out to be exactly the guy you want directing a Batman movie, too.