The timing of the occasion mattered.
I came away from13thknowing more than I ever knew I could about mass incarceration, said Winfrey.
Because now that youve seen it, you cant pretend that you didnt.

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That feeling is what DuVernay hoped to achieve.
It didnt sit right with me.
Those people are really smart and they are going to take care of it.

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Its this dirty little secret in American life that we dont want to talk about.
What it has added up to is a massive catastrophe yet we continue pretending this isnt happening.
I went to Ohio.
I went to Michigan.
I went to Pennsylvania and I think Trump is much worse than people believe, he said.
But I think his supporters are much better than people understand.
I think there is a lot of hope in that.
Then they turn on the TV and see a man who says Im going to make America great again.
That is medicine to them.
And can we make it bigger?
I dont want to push them away.
I think liberals and conservative are on trial, he continued.
Can we love all our folk… and the coal miners?
If so, I think we will be all right.
Can conservatives actually be conservative and do something about this crazy person?
If so, I think we will be all right.
If not, we have big, big problems.
Im challenged that we are not holding people accountable for their vote, for where they are right now.
Its what marginalized people are often asked to do.
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